The following interview was done with Arnold Zagaris in Noranda, Quebec where we were both teachers. Since then Arnold has become a very respected wildlife photographer specializing in the Arctic but has also been to other parts of the world as well and has published several photographic books. For more information on Arnold's work, see below photographs.
Following the George River in Northern Labrador
Interview with Arnold Zageris, Noranda, Quebec January 16, 1986
By George Brose
The north Labrador bush has twice drawn Arnold Zageris into its domain and it threatens
to seduce him back again this summer.
In the comfort of his beautifully remodelled house that he shares with wife Joan and
three-month old son Matthew, in the northwest Quebec town of Noranda, Arnold takes a pull on
his second Labatt’s, and we are deep into the Labrador canoe trip that he and fellow teacher,
Alex Goubko made in the summer of 1980. The 37 years old high school biology teacher,
rapidly becoming one of Canada’s most sought after wildlife photographers, shows a hearty
enthusiasm for something that happened almost six years ago. Staring wistfully into space, he
wishes he could put a foot back into that imposing land, “Wow, just for five minutes, right now!
What is must be like in January!”
We run through about 100 slides he has culled from his massive files to show me what
the camera can convey. He shyly admits that this was before he was getting heavily into
photography, and that he wasn’t doing much planning before shooting. Nevertheless the view
of rivers, lakes, mosquitoes, caribou and the tundra are awesome.
Asked why he chose to follow the George River up to Ungava Bay brings out a two-word
answer,
“Leonidas Hubbard”. Further query lets me know that Hubbard, an American outdoor
writer and would be explorer, led an ill-fated expedition into the Labrador interior in 1903.
Hubbard starved to death on the expedition, and one of his two companions Dillon Wallace
wrote a book about the tragedy, The Lure of the Labrador Wild. Two years later Hubbard’s
widow Minah completed the same route on which her husband had failed to return. In her book,
she was harshly critical of her husband’s companions. By her account there is a complete
absence of reference to them. Arnold was intrigued by the books and fascinated at the aspect of
going through the territory 75 years later.
Arnold’s view of adventure is one of using purely low tech equipment and common
sense. Readers of the Hubbard expedition can perceive a distinct absence of the latter. Zageris
and Goubko travelled in one canoe, there was no back up, just a 250 mile walk through tundra if
they had an accident. “You don’t go that far in the bush to get high on risk taking.”
If risk isn’t the reason to go, what is? What do you personally find that draws you out
there?
“ I Everyday is a surprise; it’s a total learning experience. You literally open a Pandora’s
box to problems, and you have to devise solutions. That’s what got us hooked.” Had any canoe
training or schooling been done before this adventure? “The year before, Alex and I canoed 25
days on the Abitibi River up to James Bay; that was our only schooling.”
What else can one expect to see in this part of the world? What can attract you there
besides the thrill of following Hubbard and Wallace through the Labrador past?
“We hoped to see the George River caribou herd in its annual eastward migration. It was a rare chance
that this might happen, and as it turned out we were extra lucky, as we rode right through them. Literally
thousands . They were early, and when we informed the Inuit at the George River Post, they
started their annual hunt accordingly. The size of the herd was incredible. After they swam the
river, the water was full of their hair. Eddies coiled it into large wads. Upon examining the hair
we could see that the ends split and panned out giving a natural trap for air underneath. This
provided insulation for winter and perhaps even buoyancy for swimming.”
Was fishing a good means of survival in an area so little touched by man?
“We caught all the fish we could eat. Lots of speckled trout, five and six pounders. We kept throwing
them back. But from a nutritional point of view, trout aren’t a very good way to survive. You’d have
to eat 10-12 pounds daily to maintain your body weight. The meat is just too lean. Salmon
would be much better; they have lots of oil in them. Unfortunately, there were no salmon in this
particular area.”
What did you take with you as far as food was concerned?
“We shopped at the local grocery store. Lots of oatmeal, flour, macaroni, salami, and chocolate. Made
bannock with the flour or pancakes with wild berries thrown in. Roasted fish over the fire. Very few
tinned goods.
A treat was a can of beans occasionally. I backpacked up the Fraser Valley in Labrador a few
years later. That was a different story as we did all the carrying ourselves rather than letting the
canoes do it. Then we got into freeze dried foods. Still we travelled quite light. Our portages
could be done in two trips. One for the canoe and another for our gear. We brought a simple
sheet of construction plastic to cover us in the canoe in rainy weather. We had a thirty dollar
tent. Used the fly sheet as a sail when we struck open water when the river became a lake. Old
bleach bottles were used to carry water up to our camps.”
Do you consider yourself more able to rough it in the bush, as opposed to the guy with 50
pounds of equipment valued at several thousands of dollars?
Arnold leaned back pensively before coming out with his reply. “Anyone can rough it. It takes no talent
whatsoever. You justhave to accept new standards. The art of living in the bush is to make everything go
smoothly.
When you make lots of mistakes, you waste time and energy. We usually started our days early.
Woke at sunup, cooked breakfast, broke camp and got into the water. We stopped for lunch if we
were on fast water or ate in the canoe if we were on calm water. By five o’clock we called it a
day. That far north in the summer you have light until quite late, but we found that by five we
were mentally exhausted. Not physically, mentally with all the decisions that had to be made.
There is never a let up in decision making on a fast river. The last 125 miles on the George were
constant whitewater.”
“In the bush you’re gonna need an axe, and a long handled one, I might add. Short handles are
dangerous and require too much work to get the job done properly. The other cutting tool I like is a
collapsible saw. Looks like a big jack knife. They are incredibly efficient cutting tools and quite safe to
use. As you get further north the trees are pretty small. It is sometimes called the Krumholz effect,
where anything that tends to grow higher than the next winter snow usually freezes and breaks
off. You naturally need a means of making fire. We managed with waterproof matches and Bic
lighters. You also need plenty of insect repellent. The flies and mosquitoes are fierce. Cover
your exposed skin with repellent and wear a double thickness of clothing, so they can’t bite
through.”
What do these bugs live on when people and caribou aren’t there?
“Their ecological role is that of a pollinator, so pollen is their basic food.”
If you had damaged the canoe beyond your repair capabilities, what were your plans?
You travelled with only one canoe and at times were 600 miles from the nearest road.
“The simplest solution was to walk out. We could have paralleled the river following caribou trails.
They meander somewhat, but they’re easy to follow. Portaging was made a lot easier thanks to
those trails. As for walking in the tundra, it was fairly easy as there is a minimum of vegetation,
and the permafrost is only an inch below the surface. Sometimes you break through the upper
surface, and then you go sliding.”
Did you have any other plans or precautions in case of an accident?
“Not really. However we did let people at both ends of the trip know about when to expect us. I carried a
couple of cherry bombs with me as signals. Didn’t want to pay the price for flares and rockets.
We were quite sure that by being prudent, by accepting to portage rather than taking a chance in
a difficult rapids, that we could avoid accidents. I did take along a .22 caliber rifle in case we
needed to shoot small game to stay alive, but I never used it. We never considered carrying a
radio transmitter.”
Did you find that skills and confidence improved as the journey progressed?
“No question that our confidence improved . It took three to four days to get to the idea of being out
there, only the two of us. Water that looked difficult at first, of course became easier. The end of
the George River, after 15 days of canoeing was still a heavy experience. As I mentioned
already, it was 125 miles of whitewater, an incredibly swift river. There were virtually no calm
spots to beach the canoe. It would flow around bends along a cliff wall, and it seemed almost
like the water rose up the cliff as if on a bobsled run. We made that 125 miles in 3 days arriving
at the George River Post a few miles from Ungava Bay. Mrs. Hubbard’s party took almost seven
weeks to do this stretch. I really don’t know why they needed that much time.”
If you made the trip again, what would you take along to improve it?
“This may sound ambit ridiculous when you think of all the choices, but I would only add to the
enjoyment by bringing along an extra pair of jeans. We got wet a lot due to the almost continuous rain,
and it would have been nice to pull some dry clothes out of the pack at the end of the day.”
What was your itinerary for the trip? How did you get into the bush?
“We loaded the Volvo and drove down the north shore of the St. Lawrence past Quebec City about 300
miles to Sept Illes. In Sept Illes we boarded a train for another 300 miles up to Schefferville, a nearly
abandoned mining town. That was a really scenic ride along the Wacoano River. At
Schefferville we chartered an aircraft to haul us and canoe about 40 miles east to the Pas River
which flows into the George. We couldn’t follow Hubbard’s route from the east as much of it
was flooded by the construction of the Smallwood Reservoir. Initially we wanted to be set down
about one lake away from the Pas, but the pilot thought the lake looked too shallow to land on.
We were flying a twin engine Otter. So we had to land a few miles away on another lake which
with portages added a day on to the trip. At the end of the trip 18 days later we flew out on a
scheduled flight from George River Post but could not take our 18 foot Kevlar canoe. Ended up
selling it one of the Inuit at George River Post for $100.”
You said that you might be going back to Labrador this summer?
“Well, it not 100% on yet, but I’m close to deciding to try canoeing along the northeast coast of
Labrador this summer. The Torngat Mountains on the shore rise 5000 feet right out of the water. That’s
as much elevation as you can see in most parts of the Rockies. Icebergs will be down there in the
summer, seals, whales, should be spectacular. This time I’ll be taking pictures with more
intention of publishing them.”
I noticed it was already 1:30AM, and Arnold had to have a bright shining face for his
students in a few hours, so we left discussion of his adventures in the Yucatan, the Galapagos
Islands, and volcanoes in Colombia for another winter evening and another run on the Labatt’s
brewery.
Arnold Zageris
37 years old, biology teacher, Frederic Hebert H.S., Noranda , Quebec
Honors: Grand prize winner of Response and Recognition Contest sponsored by
Anglophoto Ltd. In Canada. His winning photos was published in Nikon World
and displayed in Nikon House, NY.
1986-87, travelling exhibition of 40 of his works sponsored by the Natural
Museum of Canada.
Recently feted by Minister of Culture of Quebec for his contributions to Quebec
culture through his photography.
Below are several slides from that George River trip:
Dining Out al fresco



